<lungfish> you know what is the greatest force for good in this world? america <Shii> as an american i suppose it's good for you to believe that <lungfish> individual freedom, democracy, market economy, and secularism those are our tenets as a human, it's good for me to believe that <Shii> all the things that you enjoy, right in your homeland how about that <lungfish> it's not just brainless patriotism those are in fact all the best values and i know because i've studied it and i've been on the other side of the fence like many of our questioning youth <mike> fuck “homeland” <Shii> of course it's not brainless, but it's still you endorsing the things you were brought up to like <lungfish> i think our metrics are pretty powerful we have freedom, we have economic success <Shii> hmm. yes, power is an absolute truth. <lungfish> we have a much higher standard of justice <Shii> there's nothing relative about that maybe i should read machiavelli
Relativism
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