RDNA schisms

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It has been suggested that the "alphabet soup" of Druid branches is getting a little confusing to both the national Pagan community and the general public as well. The Schismatic Druids of North America and the New Reformed Druids of North America originally decided to use those names in order to distinguish themselves from the preceding Reformed Druids of North America; because while the NRDNA members were somewhat Pagan and the SDNA members very much so, the members of the RDNA were not Pagan at all. The SDNA encouraged the founding of the Hasidic DNA and SDNA Groves have begun calling themselves Norse Druids, Zen Druids, etc. Things may be getting out of hand.
Perhaps the thing to do is to reserve the term "RDNA" for the Carleton Grove and its nonpagan offshoots, while individuals and Groves wanting to practice Hasidic, Zen, Norse, Old Irish, Panceltic, Chaoist, Schismatic or Eclectic Druidism (or any other variety of Neopaganism) can use the term "NRDNA." Specific flavors can be listed in directories and mentioned in informational literature, but would not be part of the formal titles used; to see what this would look like, see this issue's list of Active Groves. In any event, we'd like some comment on these matters from Third Order members and others interested.
Isaac Bonewits, The Druid Chronicler 1.5

SDNA activities

The SDNA and the HDNA seem to place more of an emphasis than the RDNA and the NRDNA (except for the Berkeley Grove) upon the following areas; Magic, Craft, Poetry, Song, Dance, use of Solar and Lunar cycles, Neopagan ecumenical rites, civil liberties actions and active worship of many Gods not mentioned in the original RDNA literature. All Reformed Druid movements are interested in ecological activities and in the creation of new liturgies.
Isaac Bonewits, What and Why is Reformed Druidism in the 1970’s?
The Mother Grove meets every other Sunday night (Aspeneve) from 6:00 to 10:00 pm Pacific Sidhe Time. These are not official Druid worship services, since they take place indoors, currently at the home of Sister Shirine Morton,(DAL) which is at: 2820 San Pablo Avenue, Berkeley, CA 94702. The telephone number is (415) 841-4833. Right now these meetings consist of an hour's Daoist or Tibetan meditation, an hour or so of Hasidic Druid "hairpull" friendly theological arguments, a potluck dinner and a couple of hours of Bardic activities (poetry, new and old songs, music and possibly some music lessons on Celtic instruments).
Isaac Bonewits, The Druid Chronicler 1.1

Far be it from me to take a political position on 1970s neopagan schisms, but it appears to me that none of these activities seem any more pagan than RDNA ceremonies...?

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